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- Your Voices: Michelle, size 30GG/32G
Michelle (not her real name) had surgery on her breast five months ago to remove a non-cancerous tumor. Here, she talks about what it was like to go through a lumpectomy and how she feels about her breasts now. Bras Outside the Box: When did you have your lumpectomy, and where are you now in your recovery? Michelle: The surgery took place in September of last year, 2015. As far as recovery, it's pretty much over! Surgical scars can take several years to fully heal, so I'm not counting that. The incision has faded significantly in those five months though. BOTB: Before you had the surgery, what were your concerns about what would happen to your breast? M: Mostly that it would turn out to be bad news. I had a biopsy sample taken a year prior to the surgery. It turned out to be a simple fibroadenoma. I worried that the removal of the lump would alter my breast shape in a drastic or noticeable way. The ultrasound technician said it was "slightly larger than is typical and a slightly odd shape," so I worried. But for me, that didn't happen. My breast has retained the same tissue distribution as before. It simply lost a touch of volume. It was in my larger breast so I am not bothered by the loss of volume! BOTB: Did the experience turn out the way you expected? What, if anything, came as a surprise to you? M: It more or less went as expected. When I discovered the lump, purely by accident, I stayed calm and started doing research. I let my parents know and called my health care provider. We ordered the appointment and I was examined by my primary doctor. She confirmed the position of the lump, ordered a tissue biopsy and and talked through my questions. I like to go into situations like these armed with as much knowledge as possible. I felt very well-prepared for the process, knew what to expect at each stage, and I really felt like I was in charge of the situation. BOTB: What are the challenges you have now with the way bras fit, as a result of the surgery -- if any? M: Because my breast only lost a little bit of volume, and it was the larger breast, I haven't had any issues. My tissue distribution has stayed more or less the same as well, which is perfect. All of my old bras still fit my shape! For this I feel lucky. Though, I have a suspicion that my worry about breast shape changes was just me being a little paranoid. Unless the lump was quite large or very oddly shaped I can't see a typical fibroadenoma causing a drastic shape change for anybody. BOTB: What's your favorite bra that you're wearing right now? M: Currently I've been rocking Panache Black Odette in 30G. I also have a hoard of Cleo Lillies in 32G. The bands are stretched from much love, but I still get support on the tightest hooks!... for now. BOTB: How would you like to see the lingerie market change to meet your particular size and shape? M: I'd like to see more British bra makers take on the "cakes on a plate" look. Polish bras are great for people my size and shape (narrow, projected, with even fullness). My Cleo bras give me lift, but I cannot achieve the seriously uplifted, projected, "hello boobies!" look with them. We need to see more 26-30 bands. It would also just be great if the American lingerie industry would take a page from the UK and Europe regarding standardization of sizes. BOTB: Anything else you'd like to add about yourself or your search for a good bra? M: Armed with knowledge from A Bra That Fits, I love my breasts more now than I ever have. The first time I put Cleo Lily on I cried! I am lusting after Polish bras lately but I'm scared to dive in. Finding even one bra that fits well has helped my self-esteem immensely. My nerdy t-shirts fit me again! I don't have to size up in everything for my boobs! (Previously wore a Victoria's Secret 34DDD. No support, my shirts all ended up getting very stretched out. No more!) However, there are many people both larger and smaller than I am who still experience difficulty finding support that fits. Whoever you are, take time to love yourself. I have multiple surgical scars on different areas of my body. Some people in my life choose to make comments about hiding them. I don't even think they realize they're being negative. I have learned to accept that those surgeries were necessary, important parts of my personal and medical history. They're nobody else's business! Take care of yourselves. If that means you need surgery for one thing or another to be healthy, pain-free, happy? The scars are just proof that you love yourself. This is the only body we will have. It's not perfect. Everybody hates this or that about their physical appearance. But remember all the things you've done and triumphed over in your personal life. Your body has carried you through that. Find something small you love; eventually you will start finding more and more things to love about your body as you journey through life. #30GG #32G #30G #Panache #Polish #VictoriasSecret #personalstories #lumpectomy #CleobyPanache #scars #postsurgery
- Your Voices: Justice, size 26GG
Bras Outside the Box: You're transmasculine; can you say a little more about what this means for you personally? Do you identify exclusively as male? Justice: I do not. I tend to identify as transmasculine agender. However, as this is a more obscure identifier, I stick with simpler terms in non-trans circles. I prefer gender-neutral pronouns to be used when referring to me. BOTB: What do you look for in a bra, besides a good fit? J: I look for solid colors and simple lines. I do like patterns, but nothing ostentatious. Something fun, without the extra bells and whistles. I definitely prefer basics though. BOTB: Where do you shop for bras, either online or in real life? Have you ever been fitted for a bra? J: Online, typically. I have not been fitted for a bra by another person, as I prefer not to allow people into my personal space. BOTB: How has your experience with bras and lingerie changed since you realized you were trans? J: I think if anything I've become more aware of my choices. BOTB: Do you wear binders? If so, where do you get them, and what brand do you wear? J: I do! I buy these online as well. My favorite binder is by GC2b. BOTB: Anything else you'd like to share about yourself or your search for a good bra? J: Yes. Although I prefer the look a binder gives, the reason I sometimes choose to wear bras is simple. Due to the size and shape of my chest, a bra will reduce my awareness that there is something there, therefore reducing any sex dysphoria I might have. It will also help with issues like chafing, sweating, etc. #transgender #agender #transmasculine #26GG #binders #personalstories #GC2b
- Your Voices: Becky, size 36K
Becky: I'm 20, and I'm not quite sure of my bra size because I've never had one that fits properly, although I suspect it's somewhere around a 36K. I live in a small town in Canada and there aren't many places around that sell bras. The only place I've found any amount of success since junior high (middle school) is at the plus size store Penningtons. I've been able to find bras there in size 38H which are wearable, but definitely not the right size; and of course each one is over $50! It's incredibly frustrating to not be able to find a properly fitting bra. Bras Outside the Box: What was it like for you when you first went shopping for a bra in middle school? B: I remember when I first needed bras, I hated the idea, and I was really uncomfortable with it. One day (I believe in grade 5 or 6 but I can't remember which), my mother told me I needed to start wearing bras, and so I started wearing them. Originally she bought them for me. Eventually around grade 7 when I was finally more comfortable with needing to wear a bra, I started wanting bras that would look nice and be colourful. I remember a specific experience going to La Senza in our local mall. At this point I was already around a DD I think, and it was really difficult to find anything that fit right. I found one; it was black and had some kind of silver lettering on one of the cups, and I think the straps were detachable/convertible. It was nice, but not really what I wanted. Unfortunately, there weren't many bras that would fit me right, and even this one probably wasn't the right size, but the style made it sort of okay. So pretty much from the time I was comfortable enough to start wanting nice bras, I already couldn't find them in my size. BOTB: How do you feel about your breast size now, and has your body image changed since the first time you went bra shopping? B: My feelings have definitely changed. I feel really comfortable with my breast size now. When I was younger, I developed them really early, and I felt kind of different and weird. I still have the largest breasts of all my friends, but I don't have a problem with that at all. I'm incredibly comfortable with it, and my friends and I make jokes about it all the time. I never would have thought when I started out with bras that I could ever be this comfortable with my breasts, but I really am. I honestly barely even notice how much bigger mine are than other people's. BOTB: Have you ever ordered a bra online? If so, what did you try and what problems did you have with the fit? B: I have ordered bras online, but only after I've tried the same style and size in the store. Penningtons, where I used to buy bras in 38H (which is actually the wrong size), stopped selling bands as low as 38. Now they only carry bands in size 40 and up, which is definitely too large since the 38 was already not quite right. Their website still sells 38s, so I've had to order bras there to get something close to fitting. It still doesn't fit right, but it's the best I can get from this website, and I'm too nervous to try ordering other sizes from anywhere else without knowing what size I really should be. BOTB: How do you define your personal style when it comes to clothes, and what would be your ideal look in bras and lingerie if they were widely available in your size? B: My personal style is generally quite casual. I like skinny jeans and shirts that are kind of fitted, although not too tight. I don't like anything too baggy because it would just make me look like a box. I also love boots, scarves, and jackets, although I have a really difficult time finding jackets because they don't usually fit over my boobs. I also rarely wear makeup or do anything with my hair other than brush it. My ideal look in bras and lingerie would probably be something colourful. Everybody needs to have their basic nude and black colours, but I would love to have some bras in bright pinks and greens, purples, maybe some stripes or polka dots. Some lace would be nice as well, but not too much. I'm a very colourful person, so things like that would suit my personality really well. BOTB: What brought you to the Reddit community Big Boob Problems, and have you found what you were looking for there? B: I have big boobs, so I somehow came across this; I honestly don't remember exactly how. I've been around there for a long time. I don't have any particular issues that I've been looking to resolve, I just like to read about other people's experiences with larger breasts and maybe they'll happen to say something I find useful. I think it's just a good place to get educated about larger breasts, and to make it feel like a more normal thing, since most people I know don't have breasts as large as I do. BOTB: Anything else you'd like to share about your search for a bra? B: The only thing I can think of really is that within the next year, I plan on moving to a larger city, and I'm really excited for the opportunity to be able to go into a store and try on some bras, and find one that fits me properly. Want to share your bra story? Please contact me! #36K #largebust #Canada #38H #personalstories #bodyimage
- Bra Review: Sophia Rose Intimates
The Sophia bra by Sophia Rose Intimates is an elegant new option for breast cancer survivors. It's also a good choice for any woman who wants a high-quality wire-free bra that delivers support, comfort, and style. The Sophia comes with pockets for prosthetic breast forms, making it ideal for those who have had a single or double mastectomy without reconstruction. And because the pockets lie flat against the insides of the cups, it's also suitable for women who are not using prosthetics and simply prefer to wear bras without underwires. I tried the Sophia in a 34B, as that is the smallest size currently offered (I normally wear a 32B, and I'm on the shallow side). To compensate for the extra room I knew I would have in the cups, I added silicone enhancer forms, which I tucked inside the pockets before trying it on. The enhancers I used are about half an inch thick at the fullest point and add approximately one cup, which in my usual band size would bring me to a 32C. Since one of the sister sizes of 32C is 34B, I figured this bra would be a decent fit on me with the enhancers inserted. I also fastened it on the tightest hook. There is still some extra room in the cups on top, but it's pretty close to fitting. The band feels about how I expected -- slightly loose. I think a 32B would be just about right on me. I love the embroidery and delicate lace edging. The fabric is soft on the skin, but substantial enough to hold its shape (and yours). Perhaps the most flattering feature is the vertical seaming, which divides the cups into three parts to provide structure. That's key for shaping and lift, since this bra has no underwires or side boning. Vertical seams are a softer, more flexible alternative to foam contouring inside the cups. The lack of foam also makes the Sophia more comfortable and breathable than a contour-cup bra. Like other pocketed bras I've tried, this one is full-coverage with a tall center gore and sides that come up higher under the arms than the typical bra. Mastectomy bras are often made this way in order to provide coverage for post-surgical scars. If you aren't a fan of full-coverage styles, you may find that this bra covers more skin than you'd like. But it's beautifully designed and if it were available in smaller sizes, petite women could experiment with the sizing, perhaps ordering down in the band or cup to get the best fit. As of right now, I would recommend this bra for larger-busted women who need more coverage and support. You'll get both with the Sophia, even without the underwires. Sophia Rose Intimates founders Adelene and Carolyn Tan informed me that they plan to introduce a wider range of sizes once they have the funding to do so. Unfortunately, the more sizes a lingerie company makes, the higher the cost to them. I hope they are eventually able to offer a 32B in this lovely bra so I can wear it. You can order the Sophia bra on the Sophia Rose Intimates website , in Deep Violet (shown above) or Bright Peony (pale pink). The current size range is 34B to 38D. #wirefree #SophiaRoseIntimates #breastcancer #mastectomy #34B #breastforms #lace #brareviews
- Your Voices: Tiffany, size 36M
Tiffany: I'm 22, and I was last measured as a 36M in UK sizing. I was first properly sized about a year ago thanks to the help of the lovely Reddit community members of A Bra That Fits and Big Boob Problems. Before then, I was wearing bras from Lane Bryant because they were the largest I could find. Those bras were far too large in the band and the cups were still too small, so I had a lot of spillage out of the tops of the cups. And on top of that, I had grooves and bad shoulder pain from bra straps supporting the full weight of my breasts.... which are very heavy. Though, since then, I've been properly fitted and shown the different brands that sell bras in sizes closer to what I should be wearing. So I've had to do a lot of sister sizing and making my own adjustments. Bras Outside the Box: How has being large-busted affected your body image? Do you feel happy with your size, or does it cause problems for you (or both)? T: My breast size has caused me to have quite a few issues with my body image. Most of these issues were during middle school and high school. I've always had a pretty small frame, but with a large cup size, so I looked bigger around the torso than I really was. And the fact that I wasn't properly sized and wore baggy tops to try to hide my breasts didn't help. I wanted to wear a lot of the types of clothes my friends were wearing, but I couldn't due to my breast size. The teasing from other students and all the attention I got because of my breasts made me really hate them. But over the past few years, I've learned style tips and tricks for larger bust sizes to help compliment the rest of my body which took some of the attention away from my chest. So while my breasts have grown quite a bit over the past couple years, I've learned to love them, even with the problems they bring. I still have issues finding the proper bras in my size along with tops that flatter my body type. But at least now I know what I'm looking for. BOTB: When you got bras from Lane Bryant, were you fitted there or did you find them on your own? Have you ever had a good experience being fitted for a bra in person? T: I was actually not fitted at Lane Bryant. When I first ventured into one of their stores for the first time, I didn't understand the importance of a properly fitting bra. So I didn't feel the need to ask for a fitting. I grabbed one that looked like it would fit, tried it on, made my purchase, and left. Looking back, I probably should have been wearing a 36J or JJ, but was wearing 42Hs from Lane Bryant. Unfortunately, I've never had a good bra fitting experience. I went in for one at a local shop recently just out of curiosity, and was given the result 34K... which is not even close to my actual size. BOTB: What's the best bra you're wearing these days, now that you are in the proper size? T: The best bra i have right now is from Ewa Michalak. I just recently bought a bra from them in a 36M and I love it! It's from their FB (full bust) line which I believe is one of their newer styles. The wide straps and the strong material they use for the cups makes it great for heavy breasts like mine. But because of their price, I only have one. BOTB: What are the sister sizes you can wear, and what are the alterations you've had to make in order for those bras to fit correctly? T: The sister size I normally buy is 40L, and I get those from Bravissimo. I buy them in the large band and then give them to my mom who shortens the band for me. She's a lot better at it than I am! The only issue is that the L cups I have run more like KKs, so I still do a bit of quad-boobing when I wear them. But I still get more support from them than when I was wearing the Lane Bryants. BOTB: Do you have any advice for other women with a similar body type about how to get the best fit? T: I don't have much advice since I'm still trying to figure things out myself, but I would have to say, don't give up. There are a lot of resources out there and a lot of good people who have been in this position and can point you in the right direction. And while it seems that our body type isn't well-represented, which is kinda true, I have seen progress, and hopefully it won't be long before finding clothes for us is commonplace. #36M #40L #alterations #Bravissimo #EwaMichalak #bodyimage #largebust #brafitting #36J #36JJ #personalstories
- Your Voices: Megan, size 28HH
Megan: Starting when I was around 14, I have always been tiny everywhere except in the chest. I'm five feet tall and 110 pounds, and my bra size is 28HH [editor's note: this is her UK size, equivalent to a US 28K]. I'm 26 and am finally now starting to feel good about myself, but for many years I hated my chest and had no clue what sort of bra I should be wearing, or what my real cup size was. Bras Outside the Box: How was your body image related to the size of your breasts? M: They made me feel out of proportion and discouraged about my appearance. I considered a breast reduction but never went through with it. I thought my boobs were freakish-looking because of how small I am everywhere else. My mom has the exact same body type, petite and large-busted, and she always taught me that I should wear things that made them look smaller -- mainly sports bras that crushed them down. I feel like she may have wanted to protect me from getting too much of the wrong kind of attention. BOTB: When did you first discover a bra that fit properly, and how did you feel about it? M: About eight months ago I was in a boutique with my sister so she could get fitted for a bra to wear for her wedding. The sales lady asked if I was interested in trying something on too and I decided why not go for it, so she brought me four bras that were bigger than anything I had ever worn. I figured there was no way these would fit, because they looked huge, but then all but one ended up being too small! But the one that did fit, I loved. This was a 30H Parfait by Affinitas bra, black lace with bows on the straps. It looked and felt great on my body, and I found it was liberating to wear something that was not a sports bra and wasn't meant to squash me, but was instead designed for support. My sister and the sales lady both thought it looked amazing. So I bought it and then wanted more like it, because I soon got sick of my old sports bras, now that I had this one that actually fit! I searched online and found out that I am actually a size 28HH due to having a very small back, which means you need to purchase bras with a smaller band and bigger cup to get the support you need. The support needs to come from the band, not from the straps or the cups. BOTB: Are you frustrated with the limited selection of bras available in your size? M: I am still getting used to wearing bras that actually fit me. I have four now, and the one thing that I don't like is how expensive they are, but I am convinced it's worth the expense to feel and look the way I want to. If I have to spend more to get that, fine, but if I need a new bra it's not like I can stop in at Target on my way home from work and pick one up. But that doesn't bother me too much because I end up with better quality bras that I love, instead of more practical cheap ones. I'm saving up for more. And they will last longer too. BOTB: What's your favorite bra that you're wearing these days? M: I got it online, and it's another bra from Parfait called Charlotte in a 28HH. It comes in different colors so my next bra purchase will probably be another Charlotte in a color I don't have yet. BOTB: Is there any advice you can offer other women with a figure similar to yours? M: Having a good bra will make you feel better about yourself and it's worth spending more if you have to, even if that means you need to save up for it. You are worth the extra expense. I feel like the best thing you can do for yourself if you have a bigger chest is not to try and make it look smaller, but instead, work with what you've got so that you end up with something that gives you the right amount of support. Go to a boutique and get fitted, and don't be surprised if you are given a bigger size than you thought. Keep an open mind and try on the bras in that size, because you might end up loving them! #28HH #30H #largebust #ParfaitbyAffinitas #petite #personalstories #bodyimage
- Your Voices: Renee, size 28/30A
Renee is one of a handful of lovely small-busted women I connected with through my previous blog, 32AA Bra. She wrote several reviews of petite lingerie for me, and was always happy to take the time to help get the word out about available options for readers having trouble finding sophisticated, attractive bras and lingerie in small sizes. Thanks for sharing your story, Renee! Bras Outside the Box : What's it like for you, knowing that most department stores and chain lingerie shops don't carry bras in your size for adult women? Renee : It is frustrating. When it comes time for me to get new bras, I have learned to no longer waste my time perusing stores like Victoria’s Secret, Aerie, or the intimates section of any department store. The cups in a bra might fit me, but the band is always too large. My bra size is 28/30A, and the smallest bra size most stores carry is 32A. BOTB : When you find a bra that fits well, how does it affect the way you feel about yourself? R : I feel much more comfortable, and therefore more confident. Prior to my “bras-for-petite-women-actually-exist” epiphany, it was always a source of anxiety for me that I would bend over and unintentionally bare myself to the whole world since the bras I was wearing were never cut to fit my small frame -- the cups weren’t actually supporting my breasts, but were more or less just sitting there. In order for a bra to properly fit a petite frame, the proportions of the bra must be cut on a smaller scale, i.e. smaller band, smaller cups, and smaller distance between the bra cups. BOTB : Describe your best and worst bra shopping experiences (or, one time you had success and one time you didn't -- in real life or online). R: Well, I can classify all of my bra shopping experiences in stores as negative since I have never found a bra that properly fit me and which I like in a store (pre-teen/teeny bopper bras aren’t really my thing). I have had both good and bad experiences trying on bras which I ordered online. I have been happy to see that within the last few years retailers like Victoria’s Secret and Aerie have been expanding their lines to carry some size 30A bras (the rub is that you can only purchase these bras online). However, I was extremely disappointed with the Victoria’s Secret PINK Wear Everywhere Push-Up Bra in size 30A because it fit me well and is reasonably priced, but was extremely uncomfortable as I could feel the underwire digging into my ribcage. The Aerie bras in size 30A which fit me well have less padding than I prefer, and their more padded styles in size 30A are too big on me, so those bras have been another no-go for me. To their credit, though, Aerie at least has most of their 30A bras available to try on in stores if you ask a sales associate. The Little Bra Company has been an absolute godsend for me. I remember the first time I tried on TLBC’s Angela t-shirt bra -- for the first time in my life, I found a bra that actually fit and supported me enough to give me cleavage! I have since tried other styles from this line and have developed some preferences regarding what sort of back I like on a bra, amount of padding, and whether or not the straps are adjustable. It is amazing to even have the opportunity to have “options,” because before finding this brand I felt that I had no hope of ever finding one properly fitting bra in one style, never mind having multiple styles to choose from! BOTB : Are there bras you can recommend to other women with a similar figure to yours? R: The Little Bra Company bras are the best in my opinion. I resent that they are more expensive than the majority of bras from other retailers; however, I was thrilled to recently discover that TLBC recently started selling bras through Target. The line is called Ariette Petite Lingerie , and the prices are much more similar to what you would find at Victoria’s Secret or Aerie. Aerie bras are good quality and they offer a plethora of styles, so I do think their bras are worth checking out. Personally, I would most likely be purchasing most of my bras from Aerie if they started carrying size 28 band. I hit the jackpot with Aerie when it comes to sports bras—I love their sports bras in size XXS! I have also been exploring strapless bra options since I will be a bridesmaid in my cousin’s wedding this March. I own a strapless bra from TLBC (the style is called Sascha), and I am going to try the NuBra adhesive bra cups. I have read good reviews of the NuBra (specifically the Super Padded NuBra) on petite fashion websites. BOTB: What would you say to another woman with your bra size who feels insecure about her body because she doesn't fit the typical definition of "sexy?" R : My worth is not found in lies sold by retailers like Victoria’s Secret who some years ago claimed in a campaign that they have a bra for “every body" -- clearly they don’t, because at that point they did not carry one bra in a band size smaller than 32! If you are having difficulty finding bras that fit, keep searching. Perseverance is attractive, and you may be surprised at what you find. You are reading this for a reason! And you are beautiful. Image: Diane petite bra by The Little Bra Company. Want to share your bra story? Please contact me! #28A #30A #petite #smallbusted #TheLittleBraCompany #personalstories #brafitting #Aerie #VictoriasSecret #Ariette
- Your Voices: Bras and Chronic Pain
I spoke with Kate (not her real name), a reader who is dealing with conditions that cause chronic pain, about her search for bras she can wear comfortably. Her size is 32C. Here, she talks about what she looks for in a bra and why underwires don't work for her. BOTB: What is your disability, and how does it affect your ability to wear a bra comfortably? Kate: I have three medical conditions that affect my bra fitting: chronic fatigue syndrome (CFS), fibromyalgia, and acquired partial lipodystrophy (APL). The CFS and fibro keep me in bed most of the day, put me in tons of pain, and make my skin extra sensitive. Laying on pillows makes bras ride up, and pain and sensitivity makes me less tolerant of slight discomforts in a bra. The APL means that I don't have fat on my torso, so there is no fat between my ribs and where wires are on a wired bra. I get huge bruises even from wired bras that I'm told "fit well." BOTB: Do you feel like you can talk with bra fitters about your condition (either in real life or online), and have they been helpful to you in finding something that works? K: I tell bra fitters relevant parts of my conditions. People are nice, but often don't know how to respond, or run out of ideas for me fast. Most wire-free bras (especially in the smaller sizes) are either sports bras or look like training bras. Also, bras in the smaller sizes seem to have huge padding. I just want a normal-looking, pretty, and functional bra that fits well and doesn't injure me. Usually people just give up. A Bra That Fits on Reddit helped me find one bra, and that's the only bra I've ever had that fit. BOTB: If you could have a bra that offered everything you were looking for in terms of both comfort and style, what would that look like? K: My ideal bra in terms of comfort and style would be one that is wireless, doesn't hurt me, keeps my boobs from moving around too much, doesn't ride up, allows my boobs to look their natural size (not padded), keeps the world from knowing when I get cold, and looks good under a t-shirt or dress. As my boobs are quite shallow and wide, it's also nice if there's some support along the sides to keep them from flopping sideways. BOTB: What's your favorite bra that you're wearing these days, if there is one, and why do you like it? K: My one and only successful bra is the Natori Yogi. Not beautiful, but very comfortable and functional. Want to share your bra story? Please contact me! #disabled #chronicpain #wirefree #personalstories #Natori #32C
- How to Remove Bra Underwires
Recently I came across a useful visual guide to removing the underwires on a bra. You might want to consider removing the wires on your bras if you find them painful, like the small-busted woman who posted this guide; she has a hard time wearing underwires because of the way her ribcage is shaped. Her method of taking out the wires does not require any sewing, which is great for those of us who suck at it. Be aware that with the wires taken out, the fit of the bra cups may change, which you can see in the before-and-after photos of this woman in a Natori Feathers bra. I spoke to her to find out if there was any more information she had to share about this process, and she said the band still fits the same after removing the wires. She also said that she had previously tried wire-free bras but found that the cups were too close together, and the Feathers bra was a better fit for her shape. If, like her (and me), your breasts are shallow and wide-set and you don't need much support, you might actually prefer how your bras fit without underwires. It's certainly worth a try in the name of comfort. You may notice a bit of a flattening effect, because the wires help maintain the structure and volume of the bra cups. Without the wires and assuming you have the proper band size, the cups will be pulled outwards when you fasten the bra in back. If you have very narrow and/or close-set breasts, you might find that without the wires, your bra cups extend too far on the outer sides and there isn't enough volume at the center of the bra. As a result, the center gore may not tack, which means it's not an ideal fit. You can try a larger cup size to compensate for this. It's always best to hand-wash your bras, but with the wires removed, you'll want to make sure the edges of the holes don't stretch or fray (unless you decide to stitch them), so don't put your de-wired bras in the washing machine. Hand-washing in a gentle detergent like Soak should help make sure they stay in good shape longer.
- Bra Review: Royce Enhance 1069
The UK lingerie brand Royce is notable for its attention to both comfort and style. All Royce bras are wire-free, which is ideal for women who find underwires difficult to tolerate. I do wear underwire bras, but they are not the most comfortable for me. Like many small-busted women, I really don't need the support of an underwire. I'm always happy to discover a wire-free bra that still provides some coverage and shaping, because although I am a fan of bralettes, they don't do much other than look cute. I received the Royce Enhance 1069 bra in black and cream (above). It's also available in rose and cream, shown at right. Royce markets this bra as a solution for petite small-breasted women seeking a fuller shape under clothing, as well as those who have had mastectomies and want enhancement without needing to wear prosthetic breast forms. Sizing is by band only (32, 34, 36, 38), and all sizes are meant to fit AA, A, and B cups. The bra is described as "super-padded" and is designed to make your breasts look two cup sizes larger. The really unique thing about this style is that it is not a push-up bra; it doesn't use push-up "bump pads" inside the cups to enhance the bust. Instead, the added size comes from a layer of padding encased in the bra cup on the outside (between the cup lining next to the skin and the external casing), so that it covers the entire breast. This is an interesting approach because it means your breasts aren't squeezed up to the top of the cups in the Royce 1069, and clearly it is not a bra that is intended to boost cleavage. The alternative approach to padding, as far as I'm concerned, is a reason to like this bra... at least in theory. It offers increased size without underwires, and without that unpleasant squish that often happens with push-up bras. So far, so good. However, there are drawbacks. This is sort of like wearing two prosthetic breasts over your own chest, but instead of having the prosthetic breast forms inside the bra cups in pockets (as they are normally worn with mastectomy bras), the prosthetics are inside the bra cups themselves. Except, the change in size is actually not quite as dramatic as you would get with real prosthetic breasts; I wouldn't say that this bra really adds two cup sizes, which is a relief to me personally, but may be a disappointment to those of you who want that. I'd say it makes me look about one cup size larger when worn under a t-shirt. Another not-so-great thing is the feel of the cups: the padding is very stiff. When I'm wearing it, the cups don't move with me, and it doesn't look natural. It looks, honestly, like I'm wearing a heavily padded bra. The band and straps are comfortable enough, but it's impossible for me to feel at ease in a bra with cups this rigid... it's just too much like armor. It's also possible that I'm being squeezed too much in these cups, because right now I measure a size 32B (I tried a 32 in the Royce 1069). Perhaps it would feel less uncomfortable if I still wore a 32AA or 32A-- it may be a better choice for women with those cup sizes than it is for me at this point. The sizing in the band seems accurate. To sum up: if what you want is a bra that makes you look fuller without an underwire, this one is certainly worth considering. It's not perfect, but it's not awful either. The lace trim and center bow are quite pretty, and I would say it's above-average in style compared to similar wire-free bras (which are notorious for looking matronly and covering too much skin). Disclosure: I received this bra at no cost in exchange for a review. #Royce #mastectomy #smallbusted #wirefree #brareviews #32A #32AA #32B #breastforms
- Bra Fitting and Breast Cancer
Farrell Friedenberg is the owner of Jay Ann Intimates , a shop in Huntingdon Valley, PA that fits breast cancer survivors for specialized bras and camis designed to accommodate mastectomies or lumpectomies, from immediately after surgery and onward. I spoke to Jackie K., a customer at Jay Ann Intimates, about her experience there. She had a right-breast mastectomy without reconstruction and bought the Amoena Lara bra in size 40D, along with a prosthesis (Style 1022 American Breast Care Lightweight Asymmetric, size 8R) to wear inside it. Jackie says: My first experience at Jay Ann Intimates was very, very easy. I was made to feel very comfortable during the fitting. It can be a little intimidating especially your first time out for a fitting. Farrell and her team are professionally trained in this area and it shows. I was and still am a shy person when it comes to undressing in front of strangers...friends for that matter too. Anyway, I find it very easy to purchase a prosthesis with Farrell and her co-workers at her shop. Even the paperwork is done in a quick and easy manner..they know their stuff. I also interviewed Farrell to find out more about what her job entails. Here, she shares what goes into the process of fitting a woman who has or has had breast cancer. Bras Outside the Box : How is fitting a customer dealing with breast cancer different from a standard bra fitting? Farrell Friedenberg : First, there are questions: did the woman have a full mastectomy or a partial (also known as a lumpectomy)? Was there any reconstruction? Any radiation treatments- even if it was years ago? Because we are a retail lingerie shop as well as a DME (durable medical equipment) provider, we fit women in all different stages of their breast cancer journey. If the woman is missing a breast, or part of a breast, we fit for a breast prosthesis as well as pocket bras. The pocket holds the prosthesis (also called a breast form) secure to the woman's chest wall and restores her former symmetry. Women who have had reconstruction can also still be uneven after the surgery. Radiation can affect the breast size even years later. And most importantly, post-mastectomy products are a covered insurance benefit . BOTB: What are the bras (and camis) you most often recommend for breast cancer and/or mastectomy/lumpectomy, and why are these your top picks? FF : Immediately following surgery, the Amoena 2105 Post Surgery Camisole (now called Michelle) is my first choice, as it has two velcro attached drain pouches and is padded with lightweight puffs for comfort. [Editor's note: see this article for an explanation of how post-surgery camisoles work.] A good basic go-to bra is the American Breast Care 103 . It has a great fit, is very soft and comfortable, and is available in an extensive size range and a variety of colors. For a smooth-cup t-shirt bra, I would recommend the Lara and Mona bras by Amoena, and the Tonya bra by Anita . In full-bust bras, the Safina by Anita is a good choice. Other products I recommend include the Amoena Valetta cami , and swimsuits by Amoena and Anita. Both companies make fashionable swimwear with pockets for breast forms. [Editor's note: see the gallery at the end of this post for photos of the above products.] BOTB : Which items available for breast cancer patients are typically covered by insurance? FF : Everyone should know their benefits. Every survivor should know where they can be fit by an in-network provider. Many women have plans that have yearly deductibles and co-pays. Some plans only provide coverage if you go to a particular provider. Typically, insurance covers the following: two post-surgical camisoles for the time immediately following surgery until they can be fit for a bra and prosthesis, which is about four to six weeks after surgery; two to four bras per year; one silicone breast prosthesis per side, every other year; and one non-silicone breast prosthesis per side, every six months. All products must be "medically necessary." Therefore, we require a new prescription every year for our files. BOTB : Is there anything else you'd like to share about your experience fitting this population? FF : As a third-generation business owner and certified mastectomy fitter, I am honored to make someone smile again. The connection we make with customers spans over three generations. We fit grandmothers, daughters and granddaughters at all stages of their lives. #breastcancer #mastectomy #lumpectomy #breastforms #prosthesis #insurance #Amoena #brafitting #Anita #AmericanBreastCare #camisoles #postsurgery #personalstories #40D
- Your Voices: AJ, size 28C/30B
AJ: So...physically, I'm very skinny and small-chested, currently sized out on the low end not only of most bras but also most clothes. I used to be a competitive athlete, with a very different body shape as a result, so I've had a variety of fit challenges through the years, and I have plenty of Feelings about that (the strongest of which is, to misquote Shakespeare, the fault lies not with us, but with our clothes). The fit problems, along with my style preferences, have led me to sew most of my own clothes, including underwear. Because bra fitting and design is so challenging, I got pretty interested in it and started reading up--thus how I found Bras Outside the Box, Reddit's A Bra That Fits, and other resources. I'm also a bit gender-weird. I wear a variety of top-half-underwear including both compression tops/binders and "regular" bras. I don't wear anything padded, which limits my choices a lot, especially in my size range. Manufacturers seem to assume every person with a smaller chest wants mega-padding; maybe they're right, I don't know, but I seem to see a lot of women online who bemoan the fact that there aren't a lot of real-bra (as opposed to bralette) options for small-chested women who don't want to be heavily padded, especially at <$100. This is especially true in the small-band/small-bust combo, I think, unless you're both able to fit girls' sizes, with their close-set cups and straps and shallow profiles, and willing to wear girls' styles, which a lot of grown-ups aren't. Bras Outside the Box: What does "gender-weird" mean for you personally? AJ: I use that term with tongue firmly in cheek...I haven't really found a single term for my gender that feels totally comfortable. Gender-weird is just a play on "gender-queer", which is what I hear the youngsters say these days. It feels like that term belongs to a younger generation than mine. Before there was queer, there was just plain weird! In a perfect world I'd be androgynous, except that usually when people use that word, they actually mean a person of one perceived gender who's using presentation details (clothes, makeup, mannerisms, etc.) of another gender. When I say androgynous, I mean that you might look at me and think, huh, wonder whether that person's male or female. (And since we're in a hypothetical perfect world here, this thought would be followed by a shrug of indifference.) In terms of presentation in the non-hypothetical, non-perfect world, I present differently depending both on my mood and what I'm doing (bowing to social norms at work is the biggest thing that causes me to sway a bit more feminine). My personal spectrum probably centers somewhere just to the masculine side of Katherine-Hepburn-in-a-suit. BOTB: Where do you get your binders? I know next to nothing about these -- are there particular brands or sources you would recommend for others interested in trying them? AJ: So, I do have a couple of big-picture tips before I talk sources. One: safety first. Binding improperly can be dangerous to your breathing, which is no joke, so check out these guides on how to bind safely: Your Friendly Neighborhood Binding Guide Tips to Bind Your Chest Safely Binding: Creating a Male-Looking Chest Binding 101: Brands, Care Tips, and Health Two, and this might sound a little airy-fairy, but as someone who's just about old enough to qualify as an elder, my words of wisdom are: if you choose to bind, don't do it because you hate something about yourself, your body, and/or the way you look—do it as a way to love the person you are, and to manifest that person a little more visibly. You only get one physical body in this life, and it's stupid-easy to hate and abuse it for all it isn’t. The more courageous path is to use it as a tool to manifest your awesomeness in the world. All right, pep talk over; moving on. I've tried a few binding options, including compression sports bras, bandeaus, short tops, and tanks. All have advantages and disadvantages. These suckers are really tight, and therefore really hard to get in and out of. If you have arm, shoulder, neck or back injuries or immobility, I'd suggest a bandeau-style that you can fasten around your waist and then hike up. If you're a wheelchair user or spend lots of time in hard chairs, I'd suggest something with velcro on the side--those hooks and eyes are mighty uncomfortable against a chair, and pullovers require olympic-level wriggling to get in and out. In general, the easiest way to get into a pull-on binder is to pull it up your legs, rather than down over your shoulders. Again there’re lots of guides online. My personal favorite is a GC2B tank binder, which is US-made of a soft and silky material that binds well, has low-profile edges that disappear pretty well under a thick t-shirt, and isn't tooooo torturous to get in and out of. They have really good customer service as well. BlueStockings Boutique is a great source for a variety of options (not just binders, but also some in-betweens), some of which are definitely aimed at the gender-nonconforming, and it's a woman- and queer-owned business. I’ve also been eyeballing Origami Customs on Etsy, which provides hand-built gender-spectrum friendly undies, including binders and gaffs. I haven't shopped here, since I sew myself, but it’s awesome to have that resource available if you aren't feeling the mass-market options, or if they don’t work for your body for any reason. BOTB: When you look for bras, are you seeking something that works similar to a binder, or do you sometimes want to wear something without compression? AJ: I don't wear major compression all the time. I think there’s a perception that binding is an all-or-nothing deal, but it’s not. Like shaving your legs, it’s a choice you have to make over and over again! Sometimes I don't need to bind (thank you, vests and winter layers), and sometimes my chronic illness kicks up and I can't. And sometimes I don't want to! Compression can be uncomfortable, or it can feel tucked-in and secure, depending on the day. My top-undies drawer consists of binders, sports bras, camisoles, bralettes, and, yes, a couple of "real" bras. (A friend of mine calls them "big girl bras". Ha!) Sometimes I wear nothing at all, but even for my small chest, it’s not that comfortable to run, jump, or hurry in that mode, especially since I’m used to some containment. BOTB: Which bras have you found that fit and work well with your style, if any? AJ: The first time I put on a bra I’d made—it didn’t fit, of course, and was actually a bit too small, which I didn’t even think was POSSIBLE—it felt amazing. I had never put on a bra that actually touched fabric to my whole breast; my bras had always gaped or stood away from my chest somewhere. That experience convinced me to keep pursuing ‘regular’ bras as an option. Someone on reddit described that feeling as “a boob hug”, which just cracked me up. I've had no luck with ready-to-wear bras, in part because I'm picky about fit; in part because I absolutely won't wear push-ups; and in part because I have a size and shape that's really not served by the mass market. A Bra That Fits is full of complaints from my fellow small-band-small-bust people re: grading of smaller sizes, and the dearth of shallow, wide, unpadded options for smaller busts. The bras available in my size generally have wires either one or two sizes too narrow, which is very uncomfortable. 30Bs typically have wires in the 4.25-4.5" width range. Anything less than 4.75" is torturous for me, and 5" is about perfect. Add to this a bony and slightly concave sternum that means full-length wires bruise and hurt like crazy, and, yeah, I'm not very fittable in ready-to-wear. I'm very curious about the French brand Ysé, which appears to have small-size, unlined bras, but I haven't been really flush enough to order, with the potential for international returns...though perhaps now that the Euro is down I should re-think that decision! BOTB: Anything else you'd like to share about yourself or your search for a good bra? AJ: It's strange how philosophical I've been feeling about the search for an undergarment I don't even feel any particular connection to, beyond an intellectual one in the challenge of its construction. I guess my biggest lesson on bra fit is that if something doesn't fit, or if you feel like you'll never find anything, it's not because there's something wrong with your body. It's because of marketing, and statistics, and manufacturing imprecision, and a whole bucket of other factors that go into putting ready-made bras on the shelves. Not only that, but it's OK to want what you want, whether that's mash-em-flat or cakes-on-a-plate, no matter whether your physical body matches that or not, no matter if it changes over time or from day to day. Want to share your bra story? Please contact me! #genderqueer #28C #30B #binders #smallbusted #brafitting #compression #personalstories #androgynous #crossgender











